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  • #346556

    Anonymous

    I’m sorry if I’m posting in the wrong place. I recently came across a huge plot hole in my story and I was hoping for some advice. You may recognize the story as I shared some chapters on here before.

    The story is about a 19-year-old girl who is forced into being a cop because of her family tradition. She ends up being paired with a sexist, talking cat who you later find out in the story was a human that was turned into a cat by a witch for being a jerk to her. This is very much a Beauty and the Beast story with an anime twist. Anyway, the witch turns out to be part of a coven known as the Life Changers. There are two other main characters in the story and you find out later that they are children of the two first-ever Life Changers (they are unaware as their parents were killed while they were kids). The first two Life Changers were actually scientists and they just happened to come across (something) that gave them god-like powers which turned them into the first two of their kind. This is where the plot hole comes in… I never decided what it was they came across or what type of powers the Life Changers themselves should have. Besides the one woman turning the human into a cat. I was very vague with their powers and magic, but I don’t know how to fix this… Everything I think of ends up sounding so cliche. Should I be changing the story-line a bit? The whole girl meets sexist talking cat cop theme seems to have a number of fans, but the magic side of things – Well, you can probably tell, I’ve never told a story about magic so I have no idea where to go lol. Any advice at all would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.

  • #654869

    Anonymous

    how important is it that you specify the source or scope of the powers? Maybe you could leave it vague? One thought I have is it doesn’t sound like a magic story, if they were scientist and discovered something (like an object?) then it seems more sci-fi, which doesn’t really change much, just the explanations, coming from a point of science or technology, rather than supernatural. I’m thinking the scope of powers would have a lot to do with the (something) they discovered, as far as the range of powers or limitations. You’ve already specified one power, one of them turned a man into a cat, so maybe along those lines, what about shape-shifting? Or, go with a whole cat thing, like an ancient egyptian relic for Bastet (cat goddess)? I am just throwing ideas out there for you, maybe one of them might inspire you. Another thought: you named the coven Life Changers, why? Does that name have something to do with the powers or source of power? I’m just trying to give you things to think about that may get you going. Good luck

  • #654870

    Anonymous

    Jack – Thanks much for the reply first of all. I thought I could keep it vague considering it was all going so well until the end. In the end there ended up being more questions than answers, but I think you have a good point that it doesn’t sound like a magic story so much. I’m still trying to decide what the object is that the scientists come across, but what I have so far, is they are college students (head of their class) trying to find a way to get rid of the mist on the island where they live. The setting of the story is called Mist Island. That’s when they accidentally come across said item. Whenever they gain power from the artifact, I’m planning on the main villain being their professor who got jealous and ends up killing them and gaining the power himself. I originally wanted him to have a very “the world is doomed” and “people are ruining the planet” type of attitude and he ends up using his power to create another dimension for himself and other life-changers (people he shares his power with that serve under him). This is seeming to be a bit of an overwhelming idea for me considering I’ve never written anything like it before so maybe I’m in over my head. I’ve worked on the story for over a decade, though and it got decent attention as a web- cartoon once so I was hoping I could turn it into something somehow. I called them life changers for two reasons. One was because they like to change or “ruin” people’s lives with their powers and the other being, when I gave them vague powers, one of them was they could give life to just about anything. For example, in one of their final battles, they have to fight a sentient tornado. I know this idea seems all over the place, but it really worked well as a cartoon if I could only decide what it is the first two found and decided for sure on their powers. Thanks for the suggestions. Shape-shifting may be a good start for their powers at least.

  • #654871

    Anonymous

    I would take notes to help through plot holes.

  • #654872

    Anonymous

    Noizchild – Thanks for the advice! Yeah, I thought having an outline would be good enough, but with how complicated the story is turning out, taking notes does make a lot of sense. =)

  • #654873

    Anonymous

    kris0707 wrote:
    > Noizchild – Thanks for the advice! Yeah, I thought having an outline would
    > be good enough, but with how complicated the story is turning out, taking
    > notes does make a lot of sense. =)

    You don’t have to do a whole outline, just take down quick notes and read over them.

  • #654874

    Anonymous

    Noizchild – Can’t imagine doing a story without an outline, but I’ll give it a shot. Thanks again! =)

  • #654875

    cypher
    Participant

    Haha! Another outliner. I thought I was the only one. Best of luck plugging that plot hole, kris0707.

  • #654876

    Anonymous

    kris0707 wrote:
    > Noizchild – Can’t imagine doing a story without an outline, but I’ll give
    > it a shot. Thanks again! =)
    I just dive in and write.

  • #654877

    Anonymous

    Noizchild wrote:

    > I just dive in and write.

    Shhh. Don’t put those evil ideas in peoples’ heads.

    As for the plothole. I’m not sure how it’s a “plothole”? Just seems like you had the intention of giving some characters some powers, but ended up not doing it. The only way this could be a plothole is if you give them a power that could have gotten them out of situations, but didn’t (like damn Jean Grey).

    As for powers, let’s think here… Shape shifting. Increasing power. Extended life…

    How about this. It’s a take on “teleportation.” I call it Spirit Lacus (lacus latin for transport).

    Instead of being able to teleport their own bodies, they’re able to shoot out their energy into different life forms, like people, plants, even air–some reaching a level of power (Say when the villain takes their powers and multiplies it) where they can tap into the kinetic energies, like sunlight. When they mix their energy into the life forms, they then “teleport” that energy out of the lifeform, and into their own bodies.

    This creates some benefits. One is prolonged life. Another is taking on the traits and abilities of that life form. For instance, if they take in the energy of water, they have access to water manipulation.

    This come with drawbacks, though. Taking in either too much energy, or energy from multiple subjects, can create temporary mutations. Say moss growing along their arm, after taking in plant energy.

  • #654878

    Anonymous

    Oldtimer – Lol, I thought outlining was a common practice for writers, but recently heard some people can do without them. Not sure how it’ll work out, but I guess it’s worth a try. Thanks for the luck lol. =)

    Noizchild – That’s cool that you can do that. I’m curious how my next project will turn out if I try that haha. =)

    Crono91 – Yeah, I was told that this isn’t so much a plot hole as much as a lack of development on my part so my bad on calling it a plot hole. I like your idea very much, but would that mean giving up on the other dimension idea? Also, my biggest problem is what the first two Life Changers (as scientists) find that give them these powers. I’ve been thinking about it for quite a while now and am thinking of maybe going with them coming across a deity/artifact that the original inhabitants of the island worshipped, but this idea seems a little cliche to me so unsure if I’m going to use it. Thanks so much for your suggestion, though! Is there a book or something where this magic is used so I have a good example of how to write it?

  • #654879

    Anonymous

    Nope, no book. I just made it up. I write YA fantasy adventure with magical realism, so I constantly just come up with unique powers haha.

    And yeah, I can’t really help with how they get the powers. Nothing is cliche depending on how you tell the story. However, having these characters just randomly come across something that gives them powers can be tough, because it can seem out of place.

    Perhaps, since they seem to be from some kind of bloodline as the first of these life changers, they go to the island for a science expedition. Once there, they come across some elaborate mechanism with a jewel or artifact inside. They reach for the mechanism, and it turns on. In a quick set of events, it gashes their hand, spewing blood, and shoves their wounded hand against the artifact. The artifact reacts with their blood, opening dormant pathways, giving them their power.

    Granted, you have to at some point explain this mechanism and why it’s there, blah blah. But could open to extra interesting plot devices.

  • #654880

    Anonymous

    kris0707 wrote:
    > Noizchild – That’s cool that you can do that. I’m curious how my next
    > project will turn out if I try that haha. =)

    Up to you.

  • #654881

    Anonymous

    Crono91 – Well, I have to congratulate you on your creativity with coming up with magical powers! =) I wouldn’t want to copy such a great idea, but this gives me hope as I am so new to creating/writing anything that has to do with magic and I thought everything had pretty much been done lol.

    This is a very good idea, but the only thing is that the island is their original home, but now that you mention them coming across it randomly, I see that it is sort of a bad idea them just coming across something on an island where they’ve lived all along and no one else found it so having them travel to find the artifact makes a lot more sense. =) Their mission as scientists is trying to find a way to rid of the mist on their island so I’ll just have to think of some reason they would have to travel and wherever they go, I’ll make that where they find the source of power.

    Thanks so much for your help! I really appreciate it. ^_^

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