I think that depends on the editor. If your clips can taint the editors view of your writing (which in my case I thought it would) then I’d send without.Whether your ms gets looked at I’m not sure (I haven’t been accepted in any national pub yet). One thing James said to me was: The editors do read the clips. I hope that helps. I think there are some writers out there yet to be discovered and everyone must start with no clips in the beginning.Perhaps starting in regional pubs or query ones that don’t specify clips or even pubs very specific in their content if yours will fit. I feel it comes down to how you feel about them.Good luck, let me know how it goes, I’m curious if accepted without and also if they say no (for sham on them) if that was a reason..