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b&n impacted by internet - new changes

Postby mike m. » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:38 am

our local b&n store just ripped out all their reference books
shipped them back to the publisher to eat
not likely to show up at the dollar store
probably will be shredded and pulped

the reason is the internet has so much free info now
nobody is buying reference books

B&N has a cafe which seems counterproductive
people do buy overpriced food and drinks
then read for free
that costs the publishers sales further hurting the entire publishing business both books papers and magazines

b&n dabbled in computers but has settled on kiddy games of an educational sort

they have added vinyl and cds plus dvd movies and audio books
they have their nook tablets which are not competitive
buy a real samsung tablet and you can add all the amazon and b&n aps free if you want them

will they find a mix that will keep them in business
or is the long run going to be amazon for the few print books that get sold
and the rest is all electric content

your prognostications please

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Re: b&n impacted by internet - new changes

Postby rob-lost » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:01 am

Taking activity in one store as a corporate trend is not a logical thought process.

It MIGHT be a corporate thing. Or maybe people in your area just don't buy reference books.

Maybe people who read a book are more likely to buy it.

Impossible to prognosticate from such a small data set.
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Re: b&n impacted by internet - new changes

Postby mike m. » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:07 am

[quote="rob-lost"]Taking activity in one store as a corporate trend is not a logical thought process.

It MIGHT be a corporate thing. Or maybe people in your area just don't buy reference books.

Maybe people who read a book are more likely to buy it.

Impossible to prognosticate from such a small data set.[/quote]
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it is a sample of what corporate is trying to do to see what works
very logical

instead of prognosticating you attacked me personally
i noted what i say and asked questions
you got nothing but personal comments

they seem be letting people read free , which costs the publishers , is a business model they are going to be usign

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Re: b&n impacted by internet - new changes

Postby ostarella » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:17 am

Both stores in my area have huge reference/nonfiction areas - equivalent to their fiction areas, if not a bit more. Some chain operations give their local management little to no freedom vis a vis product choice, others recognize their knowledge of local needs and wants. Not sure what B&E's management is like, but it would appear to be the latter.

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Re: b&n impacted by internet - new changes

Postby rob-lost » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:23 pm

==instead of prognosticating you attacked me personally ==
I didn't say anything about anyone personally.

I described what I think of a thought process.
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Re: b&n impacted by internet - new changes

Postby mike m. » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:27 pm

[quote="ostarella"]Both stores in my area have huge reference/nonfiction areas - equivalent to their fiction areas, if not a bit more. Some chain operations give their local management little to no freedom vis a vis product choice, others recognize their knowledge of local needs and wants. Not sure what B&E's management is like, but it would appear to be the latter.[/quote]
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they all have non fiction but this one is removing reference
corporate told them to do that

it may be a test to see what works better
or they may be rolling it out to all stores soon
it was still underway as of last sunday

they do tend to adjust to local customers a little bit
but overall they are following the same basic strategy for all stores
with adjustments for size of the store
some have public meeting rooms
others only use the cafe area for groups to meet which does not work as well but better than some alternatives

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Re: b&n impacted by internet - new changes

Postby rob-lost » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:33 pm

==they all have non fiction but this one is removing reference
corporate told them to do that==
See, there's that behavior again. Tossing out claims of fact without the least effort to back it up with SOME kind of reference. Like:
==overall they are following the same basic strategy for all stores==
You have been given two examples that refute this, and you simply ignore them. And you do it by tossing out another assertion of fact which has no corroboration at all.

I'll repeat that: NO. CORROBORATION. AT. ALL.

And no, happenings as a single store are not corroboration.

A couple of winters back, the roof gave way on my local store. According to your standards of "evidence," all B&N stores are therefore poorly built.

The logic in that just does not stand up to even cursory scrutiny.
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Re: b&n impacted by internet - new changes

Postby mike m. » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:54 pm

[quote="rob-lost"]==they all have non fiction but this one is removing reference
corporate told them to do that==
See, there's that behavior again. Tossing out claims of fact without the least effort to back it up with SOME kind of reference. Like:
==overall they are following the same basic strategy for all stores==
You have been given two examples that refute this, and you simply ignore them. And you do it by tossing out another assertion of fact which has no corroboration at all.

I'll repeat that: NO. CORROBORATION. AT. ALL.

And no, happenings as a single store are not corroboration.

A couple of winters back, the roof gave way on my local store. According to your standards of "evidence," all B&N stores are therefore poorly built.

The logic in that just does not stand up to even cursory scrutiny.[/quote]\
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more lies from you

talked to store management
not my job to convince you they told me truth

it is corroboration that they are testing this at some stores
will they roll it out to all stores
nobody knows yet

you love logical fallacies

b&n rents space
stuff happens
extrapolating that like you try is silly

you have no logic
i stated facts
you prefer to deny them so you can make personal attacks

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Re: b&n impacted by internet - new changes

Postby rob-lost » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:27 pm

==talked to store management
not my job to convince you they told me truth ==
The more the claims are challenged, the more details come up.

I've seen that behavior dozens of times.
On the TV show "Cops," when the (alleged) crook tries to make their lie more believable.

It doesn't work for those guys, either.
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Re: b&n impacted by internet - new changes

Postby mike m. » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:51 pm

[quote="rob-lost"]==talked to store management
not my job to convince you they told me truth ==
The more the claims are challenged, the more details come up.

I've seen that behavior dozens of times.
On the TV show "Cops," when the (alleged) crook tries to make their lie more believable.

It doesn't work for those guys, either.[/quote]
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whatever dood
you proved you were a fascist dictator on that other writers forum

not going to argue with you

believe it or dont
not my problem

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