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Re: Good Books on Writing

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:34 pm
by mike m.
[quote="Bobabob"]Thanks for taking the time to respond. I will look for the Steven James books. I really need help with outlining. I have two other ideas for books, but I feel like I hit a wall on my current story. I'm kind of lost with the plot. I feel I need to fix this dilemma before I can move forward.

Update. I ordered both of those books after reading the beginning of Story Trumps Structure and listening to an excerpt from Checkmate. Should have them both Monday. Thanks.[/quote]
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google for the snowflake method

he has a book if the web summary is not enough

Re: Good Books on Writing

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:58 pm
by Dreaming Imrryr
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Re: Good Books on Writing

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:03 am
by mike m.
[quote="Dreaming Imrryr"][quote="Tom85"]Hello there.

As I already mentioned in my introductory post, I like writing short stories and I seriously want to become a professional writer. Therefore I was looking for some good books on writing and how to write. I did some search online browsing the most common websites for classified adds like http://www.for-sale.co.uk/books-writing. But there are so many books on writing. I can't really decide which one to pick. So does anybody can give some good advice which book(s) I should buy? So far I have a few on my list:

Stephen King – On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft
Anne Lamott – Bird by Bird
Annie Dillard – The Writing Life
William Zinsser – On Writing Well

So which one is a good start?

I'm basically interested in a general overview about techniques and style. So does anybody here has some more or different recommendations, especially with regard to short stories?

Any feedback is highly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Tom.[/quote]
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If you're going on a journey, follow the footsteps of the people who have already been there. I'm not familiar with those other authors, but Stephen King is an accomplished short story writer.

The best advice I've read about short story writing, I didn't read from a conventional writing book, I read it from an anthology of writing essays published by Writer's Digest and the essay was by Orson Scott Card.[/quote]

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king is well known
but his methods are hard to use for most writers
and his book does NOT tell HOW he does it

its a fun read but not useful for learning how to write

you would do far better to emulate patterson or rowling

Re: Good Books on Writing

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:24 pm
by Piccoro
My take on this is to read writers journals rather than their how to write books if you do want to get something useful from them. King's book is about how a truck hit him and writing. I wouldn't suggest you run into one and start writing after that for example :mrgreen: .

My approach on this is to write something your passionate about and start reading books of you genre. I found it very difficult to get good tips from the best writers themselves.

Re: Good Books on Writing

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:41 pm
by ostarella
[quote="Piccoro"]My take on this is to read writers journals rather than their how to write books if you do want to get something useful from them. King's book is about how a truck hit him and writing. I wouldn't suggest you run into one and start writing after that for example :mrgreen: .

My approach on this is to write something your passionate about and start reading books of you genre. I found it very difficult to get good tips from the best writers themselves.[/quote]

The problem with reading "tip" books from writers is that they only speak of what worked for them. Consequently, you read a book by Author A and then read a book by Author B and inevitably their advice will contradict each other at some point. Now, if you realize that, you can read any author's tip book and find things that you haven't tried yet, or that's similar to something you tried but couldn't get to work (so it's a new spin on it). Tip books are good for finding things to try - not so good as writing "Bibles".

But definitely, the best books to read are the ones similar to what you want to write. I'd also recommend reading other genres as well, because few genres are "pure" nowadays (ie, they're combining significant aspects of two or more). ;)