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Re: Are WRITERS' CONFERENCES worth-while?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:37 pm
by ostarella
[quote="mike m."]but as i said before
i have also been PAID and PUBLISHED by dozens of national publications
from WRITERS DIGEST to the WASHPOST and many others[/quote]

But you can't be bothered to list the articles, the names, or dates, or links of online versions. Put up or shut up. Seems plain enough.

Re: Are WRITERS' CONFERENCES worth-while?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:52 pm
by mike m.
[quote="ostarella"][quote="mike m."]but as i said before
i have also been PAID and PUBLISHED by dozens of national publications
from WRITERS DIGEST to the WASHPOST and many others[/quote]

But you can't be bothered to list the articles, the names, or dates, or links of online versions. Put up or shut up. Seems plain enough.[/quote]
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when we moved from the house i downsized a lot of paper and records that had accumulated
i didnt keep a log book for the following decades in case some fool wanted to ask about them later
and it may surprise you that the internet was barely getting started back then

you can research it if you care
but you dont
you enjoy your fantasy of denying that it happened
but it did

Re: Are WRITERS' CONFERENCES worth-while?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:00 pm
by Lbeauchesne
If I had been published in even a single national publication, never mind the dozens that you claim, I'm not sure I'd forget the name of the articles or even when it was.
If you can't remember the exact date, surely the year and what the article in x publication was about would enable anyone to look it up.

Re: Are WRITERS' CONFERENCES worth-while?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:23 pm
by mike m.
[quote="Lbeauchesne"]If I had been published in even a single national publication, never mind the dozens that you claim, I'm not sure I'd forget the name of the articles or even when it was.
If you can't remember the exact date, surely the year and what the article in x publication was about would enable anyone to look it up.[/quote]


if i only had one
i bet i woudl remember it too
but i had many
and they were decades ago

WD and washpost are easy to remember
the others although national were more specialised publications

i think the WD article was on scams
the washpost was about postal buddy

no idea about dates
i dont need to document all these historical events to make me feel special or whatever

Re: Are WRITERS' CONFERENCES worth-while?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:30 pm
by ostarella
Well, people can make all kinds of claims. I've seen writers who claim to be "award-winning" and turns out they won a special mention in a journal from Podunk Holler.

Be that as it may, the entire bone of contention has been and remains the fact that some of us know the difference between writing fiction and nonfiction and some don't. So basically we can consider anything you say that isn't acknowledged as merely opinion and not fact re: fiction writing as worthy of ignoring.

Re: Are WRITERS' CONFERENCES worth-while?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:38 pm
by mike m.
[quote="ostarella"]Well, people can make all kinds of claims. I've seen writers who claim to be "award-winning" and turns out they won a special mention in a journal from Podunk Holler.

Be that as it may, the entire bone of contention has been and remains the fact that some of us know the difference between writing fiction and nonfiction and some don't. So basically we can consider anything you say that isn't acknowledged as merely opinion and not fact re: fiction writing as worthy of ignoring.[/quote]
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and some of you dont realise that writing is writing and the difference between fiction and nonfiction is very small
they both use the same basic writing process tailored a little for the subject matter

basically you cant say squat that means anything
you keep repeating lies, logical fallacies, erroneous claims about others, and have no credentials to be saying anything

Re: Are WRITERS' CONFERENCES worth-while?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:56 pm
by ostarella
More bull hockey - again.

Re: Are WRITERS' CONFERENCES worth-while?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:57 am
by Oldtimer
Mikey-boy asked whether writers' conferences are worth-while. He immediately received three responses, all giving a different point of view (A maybe, from Rob-lost; Books are better, from Mike M, and a resounding "yes" from Ostarella). The following 24 responses fell into the pantster/outliner swamp.

I wonder who Mikey-boy heeded, if anyone? I have been thinking about attending a conference but it would mean spending money I wouldn't want to waste. So - back to the OP, fellow forumites. Any more yeas, nayes, or maybes?

Re: Are WRITERS' CONFERENCES worth-while?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:40 am
by ostarella
[quote="Oldtimer"]I have been thinking about attending a conference but it would mean spending money I wouldn't want to waste. So - back to the OP, fellow forumites. Any more yeas, nayes, or maybes?[/quote]

I'm going to repeat my yes - but also including a couple links that might help with the decision making:

https://thewritelife.com/which-writers-conferences-are-the-best-to-attend/

https://writersblock.loft.org/2015/03/19/4100/navigating_a_big_writers_conferencewhats_best_to_do_what_do_you_bring_how_to_make_the_most_of_your_time_and_money

Re: Are WRITERS' CONFERENCES worth-while?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:48 am
by pls
Most conferences I've participated in have been very useful. However, I do recall one so-called critiquer, a nationally-known agent, no less, who immediately began asking me questions about my submission to make me realize that he hadn''t read the piece at all … in contrast to Craig Johnson, the well-known western novelist, whose comments were very helpful and positive.