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Banned--Or Simply Shunned?

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RE: Banned--Or Simply Shunned?

Postby Fantasy » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:13 am

Based on the content of the book.... I'm flipping clueless as to why the bookstore -- Borders, was it? -- would ban the book because of it's content when they carry soft core pornography and how-to books on "pleasing" your partner.

Yes, a bookstore has the right to refuse to carry a certain type of book, but that should go under all catagories rather then one particular book.

So you're wanting to ban a book that's about a teenager being sexualy interested? Ban the Karma Sutra as well.

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RE: Banned--Or Simply Shunned?

Postby novembergal » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:54 am

I haven't thoroughly read every comment above, but I did read the article in WD. The fact is, according to the author of POP!, who also wrote the WD article, she didn't have a clue as to why Borders didn't carry her book. She speculated however that: "It seemed like there was nothing that could account for Borders' decision, except for one thing: the book's subject."  Then the WD editor took it a step further, asking "Do you think it's OK for bookstores not to carry a book based on its theme?" While his question is legitimate, it may or may not pertain to the reason Borders does not carry POP!.

BTW I was in three different bookstores yesterday, none of them a Borders store, and didn't find POP! in any of them, and they weren't mom and pop bookstores. (I looked, and asked for it out of curiosity. I also didn't find the book I was looking for either --with no sexual content -- in two of the stores. I did find it in the third one.)


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RE: Banned--Or Simply Shunned?

Postby abqwriter » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:14 am

I think agents are banning my book because they think my eyebrows are too thick.

I wonder if I can get some press. 


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Postby majinks » Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:18 pm

Anne Frank: The Diary of a Young Girl
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Challenged in Wise County, Virginia due to protests of several parents who complained the book contains sexually offensive passages.

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Four members of the Alabama State Textbook Committee called for the rejection of this title because it is a “real downer.”

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Removed for two months from the Baker Middle School in Corpus Christi, Texas after two parents charged that the book was More smutty spam spam spam. The book was returned after students waged a letter-writing campaign to keep it, and the review committee recommended the book’s retention.
"When they start to burn books, soon there'll be burning people."
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Postby jessica » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:22 pm

*sigh*

 

We could go through a LONG list of books that Schools and/or libraries which do not/ or have seriously considered NOT allowing into the collection. I feel like it tends go be a cyclic thing, dependant on the mood of the fickle public opinion or on the moral gage of whoever ~ 'Bob'~ decided at the time. Does that make that 'correct'? <shrugs> I don't know. I think it has much to do with what topic the book addresses, the group that will read it (ie:no hard core books in grade school/middle school), and the community in which these particular places can be found.

Do I anticipate that I might find many books on hot topics in this small town that I have moved into? I somehow doubt it. Do I anticipate that I will find a larger selection online for topics? I certainly do.

Rumors on books being 'disallowed' in school libraries have raged for many years. The topics on a wide range. The last one that I about which really made me laugh was at Ft. Bragg, the school systems on post. They were debating on if they should pull the Harry Potter series because it had magic and witchcraft <eyebrow up>... I went to the meeting on that and told them that I thought they were really foolish, how it helped children because it seemed they would grow a greater love to read BECAUSE of these books. I don't know if they pulled them or not. <shrugs> I'd like to think that they did not, but I've no idea. We moved and I didn't hear anymore about it.

The bottom line to this question is: Is it acceptable for bookstores to be selective on what books they put in the stores? I say YES. They have to sell them, this is how they make income, and this is how writers get paid. Is it acceptable for the bookstore to refuse to pick a book at all? I say YES to this as well. The writers may not like this. <shrugs> But just as we query for work, find the right market for our 'babies'~ we should have an idea what each store prefers, each niche. For example, I find it seriously doubtful that a book that slams the military would stand much of a chance, EVEN IF picked up by the PXs, with those who buy materials there. Would it be productive to either the seller or the writer to have it in placed there? I don't think so. Not really. Do I see any problem if ANY of these retail booksellers put ANY book online? No, I think they should.

I would think that the publisher/agent should have worked harder, had a clear marketing plan for each and every work they decide to go with. One might think that they would be wise enough to work out details~ like PLACEMENT~ before rejection looms. That would be good business, or...at least I would think it would be.

Do I think that books should be banned because of topic or content?  No, I don't think so. I do think it is the right of the owner of each and every shop to decide what is carried. Like I said, I think that each book HAS a good place somewhere. Do I think that the Karma Sutra or 101 Hot Sex Nights should be topics that teens ~or worse yet~ children have at fingertip access? No. I don't.

To me, it's much like television. You're always, at the end of the day, given the power to flip that channel if it is something that is not what to see. Parents should have an idea of what their children are watching~ as they should on what they are reading. It's just a matter of staying in touch with your children. <shrugs> If kids want to get hands on something trashy, they will. OR THEY CAN GOOGLE IT FOR FREE!

Free will is indeed a be-ioch sometimes. Just as we cannot strong arm publishers into publishing our works, we find ourselves in the same situation with the seller/carrier. I do agree that this attention will draw more attention to this book and that may make it that much more interesting TO people who would not have normally paid it no nevermind. Instead, it has full focus and its day in the sun there.

I really have to think that it is more to this story than meets the eye. It just seems fishy. I have no doubt that other books have pregnant 17 year olds. I am sure of this. To me, there are missing details. <shrugs> It just seems wrong~ the details~ like there is something missing. Because I haven't read this work, I lack details or information on what it could be another factor that better explains why they decided not to carry this work within the stores.

Either way, we're all bound by free will and choice. All of us. For better or worse, we deal with each circumstance with our own personal reasons and with our own internal gages. I am a big believer in 'Live and Let Live', it's a good and easy going pace to life, however, when it comes to making money, I would have to use practicality first. <shrugs>         ~jess


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Postby majinks » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:31 pm

I don't know how many of you'all have a book published. It seems to me that a lot of criticism is from people who never got that far. I might be wrong. It must be politics that we are require to hate others who try to succeed and say: Bad marketing, wrong subject manner, or other complain. When secretly, many of you wished you were there, even half way there would be still nice.
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