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Online Marketing for Authors: Interactions Are Personal, Not Business

Categories: Blogging, Blogging for Writers, Build a Platform & Start Blogging, Building Readership, Freelance Writer, Article Writing, Getting Published, Interviews, Marketing & Self-Promotion.

Today’s post offers up a Q&A with Mary L. Tabor, who published her first book after the age of 60. I became interested in her story because of her writing success later in life, and also because she chose to blog her second book, a memoir, on sex after sixty. Read on for excellent insights!

I’m often asked by people of, let’s say, “advanced” age, whether or not there is age discrimination when it comes to writing and getting published. Thoughts on this?

The proof is in the pudding:   

  • Norman Maclean published A River Runs Through It when he was 73, three years after he retired. He started Young Men and Fire the following year and it was published two years after he died at age 87 and it won the 1992 National Book Critics Circle Award.
  • Penelope Fitzgerald, 1979 Booker Prize winner (Offshore) wrote her first novel at age 59 and The Blue Flower won the 1998 National Book Critics Circle Award when she was 80.
  • John Bayley published Elegy for Iris about his much more famous wife, the writer Iris Murdoch who suffered from Alzheimer’s disease, when he was 73 (he had written one novel and some criticism before—a movie was made based on this lovely book).
  • Harriet Doerr wrote Stones for Ibarra as short pieces when she was 68 and finished the book as a novel when she was 74; it won the American Book Award and the Pen/Faulkner Award and was made into a movie for television.
  • Frank McCourt published Angela’s Ashes when he was 67 after he retired from teaching high school; it won the Pulitzer and was made into a movie.
  • Tillie Olsen did not publish her famous and ever-so brief collection Tell Me a Riddle until she was 44, silenced by the necessities of work and child-rearing.

I say, It ain’t over ’till it’s over.

You’ve placed numerous short pieces in renowned literary journals, going back to the 90s. Many essayists and fiction writers would be immensely envious. Any tips to share? I’m curious also how many rejections you received compared to acceptances.

Rejection is the name of the game once we’re brave enough to send our work out. The title story of my first book, The Woman Who Never Cooked, was rejected 16 times before IMAGE took it—God bless Gregory Wolfe, but he took it in 2001 and didn’t publish it until 2002 because of their “extensive backlog” and then only after I was named the finalist by Frederick Busch in the AWP Short Fiction Contest in June 2002.

Oh and get this: The book itself was named a finalist in nine well-known contests, including twice for the Iowa Short Fiction Contest before it won Mid-List’s First Series Award in 2004 and they published the book two years later.

As to tips? Love the small journal where the audience is small and payment is minimal to none. So why bother? In “little” magazines, great writing is most often given its voice, and only here does writing truly break form. Much of American literature is forged here. Large-circulation magazines take fewer risks and have less space for literature with every passing year.

Don’t despair. Stuff the envelope and cherish the paradox of the great rejection letter: When someone takes the time to tell you how good your work is while also rejecting it, take hope.

You started a memoir about your marriage and separation, Sex After Sixty, and blogged it as you wrote it. Why did you decide to take this path? What other options did you consider before deciding to blog your memoir?

Other options? None. After my husband of 21 years announced, oh so Greta Garbo, “I need to live alone,” I cratered and I stopped writing. His announcement coincided with the arrival of the galleys for The Woman Who Never Cooked. I didn’t know what had hit me, escaped to a visiting writer’s job at the University of Missouri-Columbia, and thought I was done.

When my daughter and her husband suggested that I blog the crazy life I was living—Internet dating, falling in and out of love like a Victorian ingénue—I figured, What have I got to lose? I’d hit bottom.

I didn’t really know that I was writing a memoir until about a quarter into it when the writer Marly Swick said to me, “This stuff is gorgeous, evocative and eloquent and you’re giving it away. Do you know what you’re doing?”

But by then the blog had a following and I was hooked by ordinary folk who kept reading and commenting. The blog had taken on a life of its own and I couldn’t stop.

I often don’t actually feel as if I have a choice about the writing. The process of making something other—no matter how flawed—repairs in a way that nothing else in my life does. The blog did that even more than the solitary act of writing because the feedback was immediate. I forged ahead on the sea of my readers’ belief.

How many people were following/reading your blog by the end of the process?

I began the blog in August 2008 and finished what I had realized was a book in February 2010. At the height of that journey, as I approached what I eventually saw would be the end of the memoir, my readership surged to a noticeable peak.

From December 2009 to March 2010, I had well over 2,000 hits, including nearly 100 on days when I posted. All told, I had readers from 37 countries on six continents. The numbers may not be impressive compared with well-known writers or blogs, but to me, this was paradise.

Tell me about all the unexpected things that happened as a result of this process. What did you learn?

That young people of all ages like the book, are fascinated by the questions of commitment, love, and, yes, hair length.

Your publisher is 3ones, which describes itself as “a product development company for hire.” Tell us about this company and what it means for you and your book.

Kelly Abbott, the CEO of 3ones, is under forty, loved the manuscript, and believes what he says: “As the title of her book would suggest, she’s older than we are, but challenges us in her youthful understanding of the world. And by youthful, I don’t mean naive. I mean unblemished. I mean optimistic. I mean joyful and carefree and without pretense or fear. Mary is a breath of fresh air.”

More important to me is that, despite the fact that he is not an established publisher, he is the son of the writer and literary lion Lee K. Abbott with whom I have studied and whose praise graces my first book. Kelly is a bibliophile, who grew up with a writer, who understands the writer’s frustrations and hopes.

Whether my choice to go initially with Kelly was wise, time will tell. But here lies the rub: When the work goes into the world, one wonders what will happen to it for fear that what one has done will not be understood.

Kelly understands and we are learning together how the publishing world “works.”

In as much detail as you have, what kind of success have you had in selling the book so far?

This early in the game, I haven’t a clue. But I do know this: I had an open book party, me
aning no RSVPs, announcement on Facebook and elsewhere, on June 25. I sold seventy books. That was quite a night.

Do you have a secret marketing weapon? Are there certain sites or tools that work really well for you? And/or, are there things that have not worked?

Interactions are personal, not business. Twitter, for one key example, if well understood, is personal, not business. It is about generosity and goodness. If you understand it otherwise, you misunderstand.

I met you on Twitter. And if I have a secret weapon, you define it.

The rest I am learning. But this I do know, the writer must commit herself to the marketing of her book through web page, blog, and most important, personal interaction, one person at a time. And this takes time, time away from the writing I so crave.

Any other advice for writers considering a blog-to-book path?

On this question, I turn to my wise companion W.H. Auden: “Leap before you look.”

My thanks to Mary for sharing her story with us. Go visit her homepage, or check out her newest book, (Re)Making Love: A Sex After Sixty Story.

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14 Responses to Online Marketing for Authors: Interactions Are Personal, Not Business

  1. Hi, Alex Wilson,

    The memoir is actually entitled (Re)Making Love: A Sex After Sixty Story. I hope you’ll take a look at it.

    Eight novellas!!! And I went to your blog and love it. Click on his name, guys, and take a look: A lotta good stuff. And of course, let’s read at least one of these novellas. I’m off to find one.

    Thanks for taking the time to comment here, Alex Wilson.

    Mary

  2. Alex Wilson says:

    I love this and relate. I began writing in earnest this February at age 74 and have cranked out eight (8) novellas thusfar. I credit this to my wife/muse/editor, Barbara, who saw my writing talent before I did. As to your success, with a title like ‘Sex After Sixty’, you can’t miss. I wish you bounteous riches.

  3. Hi, Florence Flois,

    I second your praise of Jane Friedman. I am so glad to have found her. Those of us who toil away in the silence of our "attic" rooms, the metaphor for the writer’s solitude, find courage in Jane’s wisdom and advice.

    I am glad here to have found YOU.

    Mary

  4. Theresa Milstein,

    I took a look at your blog and see that you are doing sincere work from your heart. That’s what makes a difference in the world and look at all those followers. I just became one and envy you your large following! Thank you for taking the time to come here and comment. -Mary

  5. Thank you so much, Jane. I am a subscriber and read you every day. So many days I find new resources and new people to read and learn about. Mary is someone I can feel a kinship to, sharing her vintage and loving the process of blogging.

    I appreciate all that you do to help in this strange journey to publishing.

  6. What an inspirational story. I read certain blogs and think, this would make a wonderful book. You must’ve had one of those blogs. You show you don’t have to be young or have a huge following to be published. Congratulations.

    And thank you for the advice.

    My blog is so important to me. While it may not have the number of followers and hits as some of the popular ones, the supportive community has been wonderful. Not only that, but I’ve found two manuscript exchange partners. I now have a contest to raise $ for a worthy cause, and the outpouring of support has been amazing. I think it’s in part to the community I’ve become a part of.

  7. Jaki Scarcello,

    Your comment is full of the generosity of self that shows us all who you are: I can only say that I am glad to have found you and to be the recipient of your eloquence to describe my efforts both to write and to try to talk about that effort. You honor me here and I thank you.

    Mary

  8. Mary inspires us all, writers out there in cyberland and on the pavement of life, trying to sell books and more importantly share the message they contain.
    Mary inspires because she is promoting as she writes and as she lives; honestly,vulnerably,with great generosity and engaging humor,sharing considerable knowledge and wisdom
    Thank you Mary for continuing to role model the way to be yourself and believe in the value of that self.

  9. And Cathryn,

    Your comment exudes the kindness that comes from everything you write, including your most recent blog entry on Medicine Song Woman. And Cathryn is a terrific person to follow on Twitter @storyroute : she hooks up folks and she is all heart.

    Thank you, Cathryn. I think here that all the credit goes to Jane Friedman who asks the best questions. As I say earlier here, I felt as if she was reading my mind.

    Mary

  10. Oh, Heather Fogarty, you make me blush. Thank you for reading the book and for the fab interview you did with me on the greatest fashion, food and all that is chic blog ever. If you haven’t visited TheFoodinista, you are missing a bet! When I discovered her through a search about food, I had no idea how literate and clever this blog would be and couldn’t even hope to ever be there! I even named one of my own a blog entries about that gift this: I must have done something good. Take a look: http://thefoodinista.wordpress.com

    Mary Tabor

  11. Excellent interview, Jane – and, of course, your responses are gems, Mary. Terrific to see two such talented writers create what will no doubt be a very encouraging interview for a lot of hopefuls.

  12. Mary Tabor’s memoir is an inspiration—everything about it is original: the format, the rhythm, and the genius marriage of pop culture references from Michelle Obama to Nietzsche to Meg Ryan. Highly recommend this memoir!

  13. Darrelyn,

    I cannot tell you what your words, you the book maven, mean to me! I can barely believe you read the book, let alone so fast. I feel so fortunate to have found you on Twitter. You are a find, indeed. And, Jane, goodness, what an interview! It was as if she were reading my mind with those questions. Thank you so much for taking the time here to comment–and most deeply for what you so generously have said.

    Mary L. Tabor

  14. This is so crazy because I woke up this morning after staying up late to finish (Re)Making Love. The first thing I intended to do was send you a note to tell you how much I loved it. At first, I didn’t realize it was a blog memoir and was a bit confused, but I quickly realized I was experiencing your story as you did. I fell deeply into the rhythm of your writing.

    Without giving anything away, I loved the ending. And I must say, Bravo! Great job, Mary. I absolutely enjoyed the book and sharing your journey. I’m so glad Jane interviewed you; her timing is amazing. I don’t think age should be considered when buying your book. Anyone who has ever been dumped, guys or gals, or simply enjoy a beautifully written story would enjoy.

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